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06/15/2017

FO 10:24 PM Bug #33: Wizard of Wor
Turbo freezer does not freeze it when its in 'frozen blocks' state but does otherwise. foft
FO 10:21 PM Bug #33: Wizard of Wor
Tried a different version and I get the 'freeze with blocks' at the end of every level. Will have to see what happens here - is the 6502 still running until I hit f12 and freeze it? foft
FO 09:30 PM Bug #33: Wizard of Wor
Well I tried many settings in Altirra and can't reproduce with a different hardware variant.
Things I found:
i) Recursive NMIs
ii) No illegal op codes, even works on 65C02 etc.
iii) Still works with zero initialised ram (the eclaire ...
foft

06/14/2017

FO 08:54 PM Bug #33: Wizard of Wor
I see this too. Any luck tracking down the cause? I'm hoping @xxl or @xuel can help me here with their machine code wizardry:-)
For now I'm not concerned about the F12 issues, more the core game problem ignoring the F12 menu. There ar...
foft
91 07:54 AM Bug #33: Wizard of Wor
I checked a car version on core 14, it started this behavior on the first level after killing monsters and an additional two monsters re-spawn in the upper left which will only move vertically in a small area. After killing these two mon... 917k

06/13/2017

FO 10:20 PM Feature #11: Non-uk keyboard support (custom keyboard mapping)
Computer generated c code for TK2 is here: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/263044-developerstesting-required-for-mini-itx-clone-system-eclairexl/page-6#entry3783384
Might be nice to integrate this, archive looks fairly large though i...
foft
SA 08:24 PM Bug #50: CORE13 - Option on initial powerup does not disable BASIC
foft wrote:
> I suggest multiple os roms with a key to toggle
Yeeha! Sound perfect option in my ears!
sadosp
FO 06:45 PM Bug #50: CORE13 - Option on initial powerup does not disable BASIC
Yeah we should absolutely save this setting too foft
FO 06:44 PM Bug #50: CORE13 - Option on initial powerup does not disable BASIC
I suggest multiple os roms with a key to toggle foft
SA 12:24 PM Bug #50: CORE13 - Option on initial powerup does not disable BASIC
I have catch my self many times to set the older Atari OS (memopad) as default on settings menu only for this reason!!!
Ok if you still do not want to proceed with my proposed way, is possible to change your firmware as to save this spe...
sadosp
SA 12:17 PM Bug #50: CORE13 - Option on initial powerup does not disable BASIC
Is the same thing like someone put a simple switch to rom, to disable the Basic on original hardware.
Really I dont mean to patch either a line in OS rom. ;-)
sadosp
SA 12:12 PM Bug #50: CORE13 - Option on initial powerup does not disable BASIC
foft wrote:
> Basic on/off is an os thing, I don't want to patch the os in firmware.
> ...
I not mean to patch the firmware Mark.
Asking for a way to disable the Basic with an electronic switch within your firmware. I mean to think th...
sadosp
FO 08:49 AM Bug #50: CORE13 - Option on initial powerup does not disable BASIC
Basic on/off is an os thing, I don't want to patch the os in firmware.
Yes we need to see how to get usb keyboard state early on power on.
foft
SA 06:12 AM Bug #50: CORE13 - Option on initial powerup does not disable BASIC
I don't remember if in the past have ask from Mark to add a future within settings menu, as to be possible to disable the Basic and save the setting. sadosp
SA 06:03 AM Bug #50: CORE13 - Option on initial powerup does not disable BASIC
Stephen wrote:
> When initially turning on the Eclaire, holding F8 does not disable internal BASIC. However, once booted, if I hold F8 then press F10 to restart, BASIC does get disabled. The built in self test shows the keyboard is re...
sadosp
ST 02:18 AM Bug #50 (New): CORE13 - Option on initial powerup does not disable BASIC
When initially turning on the Eclaire, holding F8 does not disable internal BASIC. However, once booted, if I hold F8 then press F10 to restart, BASIC does get disabled. The built in self test shows the keyboard is responding. Stephen
ST 05:31 PM Bug #48: CORE13 - Veronica BASIC not working
foft wrote:
> So all tests work but veronica basic does not?
> ...
Yes, everything on the ATR I attached works. I will attach the version of Veronica BASIC I was trying to use. This evening I will arrange my desk better so that I can...
Stephen
FO 08:51 AM Bug #48: CORE13 - Veronica BASIC not working
So all tests work but veronica basic does not?
I know a bit about veronica, I built a veronica clone for the ultimate cart but never debugged it.
foft
ST 02:40 AM Bug #48: CORE13 - Veronica BASIC not working
OK - I got the rotator demo working. However, I cannot get Veronica BASIC to load. It either hangs or says it cannot communicate with the cart. Pressing F10 causes my monitor to see the input switch, but I get a black screen, and have... Stephen
ST 02:25 AM Bug #48: CORE13 - Veronica BASIC not working
Guys - I am very sorry. I was not loading the BIOS first. Veronica is working properly. I tried to delete this, but must not have appropriate permissions.
Stephen
ST 02:23 AM Bug #48: CORE13 - Veronica BASIC not working
VREGREAD passes both tests, VRAMTEST passes the 4 tests. Stephen
ST 02:21 AM Bug #48: CORE13 - Veronica BASIC not working
Also, VREGREAD fails both tests, and VRAMTEST fails all 4 tests.
Stephen
ST 02:14 AM Bug #48 (Closed): CORE13 - Veronica BASIC not working
I've tried various RAM and NTSC/PAL settings. When I run "detector.com" from the attached ATR, the screen flickers and I get "Veronica Not Detected". My Veronica is a black cased Revision 2.0. Stephen
FO 11:16 AM Bug #49: CORE13 - NTSC/PAL switching
Yeah I've noticed this too. I think there is a lockup on exiting the menu in general. foft
ST 02:17 AM Bug #49 (Closed): CORE13 - NTSC/PAL switching
I've noticed several times when I switch between PAL and NTSC, then do a "save and apply", when I exit, and exit the main screen the core has frozen and no keys respond (F10, etc.) It doesn't seem to matter if I go from PAL to NTSC, or ... Stephen

06/12/2017

SA 09:57 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
foft wrote:
> It should work with any decent USB supply. So I think we need to improve our end to handle this variation.
> ...
I am ok with this. Is an option!
But if you ask my opinion, I would say that the final purpose of eclaire...
sadosp
FO 09:37 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
These are all 'quality' usb supplies - well Apple anyway! foft
FO 09:34 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
It should work with any decent USB supply. So I think we need to improve our end to handle this variation.
I checked my scope on a 5V supply I built at university and confirmed it does show 5V with that:-)
foft
SA 09:23 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
foft wrote:
> I have power supplies who state 5V, but if I measure them they are not.
I know Mark, and this is the reason who I ask you to buy a tested psu from Samsung.
sadosp
SA 09:09 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
ndary wrote:
> i have a meter, just need clear instruction what to do and where to check
> ...
Prepare your meter for *DC Volts* in a range of 10 or 20 volt. After power up your eclaireXL without any peripheral device connected, and pl...
sadosp
FO 09:03 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
I have power supplies who state 5V, but if I measure them they are not.
You can measure on the joystick ports - or between the power switch and gnd.
foft
ND 08:58 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
i have a meter, just need clear instruction what to do and where to check
Nir
ndary
SA 08:50 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
Same reading in the 1st board also?
What the other guys said about it? None have a multi meter to check the voltage?
Can you find this in Switzerland? Is 5.2 volt at 2 Amper! My meter read 5.16 volt on board! Same thing is also the...
sadosp
FO 08:38 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
I mean tps63002.
I have a multimeter. It still reads 3.8V today after the regulator - and 5V on the input. I trust the scope more - when the software is working:-)
foft
FO 08:36 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
I read it at the switch. I checked with 4 psus - checking each time on the regulated outputs that my scope was still working.
I think we need one of these: tps63001
foft
SA 08:34 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
Mark, I think is time to send you a digital multi-meter as a gift! ;-)
I have a question. You read the 5v directly at the input, or at the end after the joystick port?
sadosp
FO 08:21 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
"It is specified that devices' configuration and low-power functions must operate down to 4.40 V at the hub port by USB 2.0 and that devices' configuration, low-power, and high-power functions must operate down to 4.00 V at the device po... foft
FO 08:17 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
"The ATX power supply specification states the 5VUSB rail can be between +4.75V and +5.25V."
I guess we need a regulator to actually get 5V! I also read that many ports output only 500mA until sending them a message.
I wonder if th...
foft
FO 07:59 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
OK, I restarted my scope software and now get the correct readings. So a bit of a mystery but I suspect a plain old bug...
Anyway now I get 3.3V,2.5V and 1.1V as expected. However the 5V line is anything but 5V. I checked 4 different ...
foft
SA 12:36 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
Hi Mark.
I use my 4 digits digital multimeter to take readings. My analogue scope TEK2445, isn't usefull at all for accurate voltage readings, although it have on screen readout. As for the digital scopes, I don't know how accurate are....
sadosp
FO 07:29 AM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
Ok, so assuming my scope is wrong for now. Its a usb one, I don't trust the absolute levels that much. What are you using to measure Panos?
One thing fed almost direct is 5V from psu to touch tablet. It might be sensitive. I can check...
foft

06/11/2017

SA 10:41 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
Even a worthless psu rated at 5v @ 500mA who in reality supply with 5.26v, after the regulator read 3.333v sadosp
SA 10:33 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
I use these two power adapters below..
[[https://m-service.prom.ua/p47863721-zaryadnoe-ustrojstvo-white.html]]
[[http://www.awax3.pl/product-pol-4023-Ladowarka-Samsung-EP-TA10EWE.html]]
sadosp
SA 10:14 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
foft wrote:
> Maybe my tools are just not calibrated properly.
I don't have touch tablet in my possession, but I try two different psu's with 5 and 5.2 volt output, and at any case I read 3.333v with my voltmeter. I check it on v1 bo...
sadosp
SA 10:14 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
foft wrote:
> Maybe my tools are just not calibrated properly.
I don't have touch tablet in my possession, but I try two different psu's with 5 and 5.2 volt output, and at any case I read 3.333v with my voltmeter. I check it on v1 bo...
sadosp
SA 10:12 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
foft wrote:
> Maybe my tools are just not calibrated properly.
I don't have touch tablet in my possession, but I try two different psu's with 5 and 5.2 volt output, and at any case I read 3.333v with my voltmeter. Check it on v1 boar...
sadosp
SA 10:11 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
foft wrote:
> Maybe my tools are just not calibrated properly.
I don't have touch tablet in my possession, but I try two different psu's with 5 and 5.2 volt output, and at any case I read 3.333v with my voltmeter. Check it on v1 boar...
sadosp
FO 09:04 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
Maybe my tools are just not calibrated properly. Well anyway the touch tablet does not seem to work with a decent PSU due to small voltage adjustments on the LM339 level. So I think we need to adjust the resistors on that slightly. I thi... foft
SA 08:59 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
foft wrote:
> Still this this should be checked, but think its a red herring. I get the same reading on my scope - and on the v1 and prototype. I don't remember these being so far off but guess they have always been. Panos, what did you...
sadosp
FO 08:52 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
OK, I found that if I connect the Eclaire to my laptop for power, it works. If I connect it to a PSU, it doesn't! The voltage is slightly higher and pushes the threshold too high.
So: weak PSU, touch tablet works. string PSU, touch ta...
foft
FO 08:32 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
Still this this should be checked, but think its a red herring. I get the same reading on my scope - and on the v1 and prototype. I don't remember these being so far off but guess they have always been. Panos, what did you get when you m... foft
FO 08:19 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
Going to check this on my scope, I don't trust my multimeter... foft
FO 07:53 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
The odd thing is I get 3.8V instead of 3.3V. I don't understand that at all, investigating... This would push the threshold on the LM339 too high for the paddle, but why is it 3.8V?! foft
SA 07:42 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
foft wrote:
> I checked the touch tablet, confirmed not working on the new board. Very odd since this worked on v1 and paddles are working, except the bad mapping! Will investigate...
If I remember well these work on core 7 or 8??..
sadosp
FO 07:39 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
I checked the touch tablet, confirmed not working on the new board. Very odd since this worked on v1 and paddles are working, except the bad mapping! Will investigate... foft
FO 07:36 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
", then I will check the touch tablet" foft
FO 07:36 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
Yeah I mixed them up.
We swapped joystick ports 0/1 and 2/3 on the silkscreen. I made the same changes in the core... except its different for paddles since we'd only really swapped port 0 and 1!
I'm building with the order correct...
foft
SA 07:30 PM Bug #47: CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
To one point I don't remember till which firmware version, these work well. Maybe Mark later confuse something in Core?
sadosp
ND 05:47 PM Bug #47 (Closed): CORE 13 - Paddle, Touchtablet issues
Touch Tablet not working
Paddles buttons and Knobs are not correlate for the same Paddle
ndary
ND 09:13 PM Bug #45: CORE10 - IDE2+ SDX not working
testing IDE2+ on an ULTIMATE 1MB does not behave correctly as well ndary
FO 09:08 PM Bug #45: CORE10 - IDE2+ SDX not working
Does the IDE2+ work in those modes on a real system? I mean on a standard version of those upgrades, not one of these new ones that latches portb bits.. foft
ST 08:53 PM Bug #45: CORE10 - IDE2+ SDX not working
Stephen wrote:
> In CORE10, when I boot with the IDE2+ installed, the machine initially goes right into self test mode. Pressing reset will take me to a BASIC prompt with "ERROR 12 at Line 0" and typing LIST gives me the repeating 0s f...
Stephen
ND 05:44 PM Bug #45: CORE10 - IDE2+ SDX not working
Tested and working on core 13
Nir
ndary
FO 08:48 PM Bug #25: F10 Hard Reset Ignore inserted cartridge (Core v7)
This is still on the list, but not yet in place... foft
ND 05:45 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
Tested and working on Core 13, need other guys to test on MIO and BlackBox
Nir
ndary
FO 12:11 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
More info from Simus:
$D800..$DDFF is a ROM, $DE00...$DFFF is a RAM.
MPD is kept low all the time when apropriated bit in PDVREG ($D1FF) is set. EXTSEL is pulled down 40-50ns after one of two conditions occured:

1. MPD is low and a...
foft
ND 03:09 PM Bug #34 (Closed): Problem booting with Core 9
this happen on every core after flashing, to solve it i simply remove and put back the SD Card and it works ndary
ND 03:07 PM Bug #44 (Closed): CORE 11 - Bug in PBI - EclaireXL will not boot with IDE2+ Is connected and when Turbo Freezer connected goes directly to Cart EMU not main screen
Checked IDE2+ On core 13 and i works!
case closed
ndary
FO 02:09 PM Bug #44: CORE 11 - Bug in PBI - EclaireXL will not boot with IDE2+ Is connected and when Turbo Freezer connected goes directly to Cart EMU not main screen
Even on v13 it goes straight to the cart emu menu. My turbo freezer goes straight to the cart emu menu on my 600xl though, so it seems normal... I think that didn't happen on older cores because my reset was broken. foft
FO 01:54 PM Bug #44: CORE 11 - Bug in PBI - EclaireXL will not boot with IDE2+ Is connected and when Turbo Freezer connected goes directly to Cart EMU not main screen
Found a bug I introduced here. When MPD_N is low I was also disabling the rest of the OS rom... Ooops! IDE2+ holds it low, hence the failure to boot. Fixing in core 13. foft
ND 03:07 PM Bug #46 (Closed): CORE 10 - VOICE BOX does not work with Eclaire board
solved in CORE 13 ndary
FO 01:53 PM Bug #46: CORE 10 - VOICE BOX does not work with Eclaire board
I've wired this up in core 13, but I need to checking the timing is correct on the logic analyzer. foft
SA 11:30 AM Bug #46: CORE 10 - VOICE BOX does not work with Eclaire board
Pin 12 of SIO connector is used only by ancient Atari's 400 and 800 as a 12v dc supply. On eclaire XL is unconnected.
sadosp
FO 10:01 AM Bug #46: CORE 10 - VOICE BOX does not work with Eclaire board
I guess you mean pin11? I think you confirmedthis works, but is quiet?
The problem is I think that this uses sio clock out and the implementation is incomplete.Will check...
foft

06/10/2017

SA 11:43 PM Document: Main Board Interface 1 & 2 Pin-outs - v3 prototype
sadosp
SA 11:41 PM Interface Pinouts V3.0.png
sadosp
ND 01:45 PM Bug #46 (Closed): CORE 10 - VOICE BOX does not work with Eclaire board
i tested my Voice Box on a real Atari and on the Eclaire board and on the Eclair it does not work!
to run the VoiceBox you need to VoiceBox hardware connected to the SIO Port.
i belive that the VoiceBox output its Audio through PIN 1...
ndary

06/09/2017

ST 11:40 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
ndary wrote:
> can you confirm that you get to the MIO Menu?
> ...
After dinner I will find a power supply for the MIO. First I have to confirm it works on real hardware, and then yes, I will let you guys know if it works with CORE11 ...
Stephen
ND 09:45 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
can you confirm that you get to the MIO Menu?
Nir
ndary
ST 09:38 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
ndary wrote:
> i found this document.. can it be missing voltage on the PBI port?
> ...
Nir, I do have a 256kB MIO. Two issues. First I don't know if it works, as I don't believe I've ever even turned it on since I bought it. Second...
Stephen
FO 08:23 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
IDEPlus info from Simius:
IDE+ detaches OS ROM between $D800 and $DFFF and plug his own memory there. I uses also $D1xx page and $A000...$BFFF area for SDX
IDE+ uses all PBI signals, except: RAS, CAS, RDY, REF, EXTENB and AUDIO
IDE+ l...
foft
FO 09:59 PM Bug #44: CORE 11 - Bug in PBI - EclaireXL will not boot with IDE2+ Is connected and when Turbo Freezer connected goes directly to Cart EMU not main screen
Though that logic should only get hit after it stabilises... Hmmm. Well registering it anyway (grasping at straws!!) foft
FO 09:46 PM Bug #44: CORE 11 - Bug in PBI - EclaireXL will not boot with IDE2+ Is connected and when Turbo Freezer connected goes directly to Cart EMU not main screen
I think I know why it won't boot with v11.
MPD_N is combinatorial logic driven from the address - and I use it too soon.
foft
ST 09:26 PM Bug #44: CORE 11 - Bug in PBI - EclaireXL will not boot with IDE2+ Is connected and when Turbo Freezer connected goes directly to Cart EMU not main screen
I am also confirming that with Core 11, the exlaire will not boot with IDE2+ Rev C. A video signal is generated as my monitor picks up the 50Hz signal via HDMI, but when pressing F12 no text is visible.
Stephen
FO 07:10 AM Bug #44: CORE 11 - Bug in PBI - EclaireXL will not boot with IDE2+ Is connected and when Turbo Freezer connected goes directly to Cart EMU not main screen
I see the cart emu thing, I had not tested that... I had it disabled. Interesting, will check the manual for when that fires up, might give me a clue. foft
FO 09:59 PM Feature #2: PBI support
Turn on data write to bus earlier, for things that snap it early (like IDE2+).
Register MPD_N before feeding to the address decoder and disable it when disabled.
foft
ST 09:29 PM Bug #45 (Closed): CORE10 - IDE2+ SDX not working
In CORE10, when I boot with the IDE2+ installed, the machine initially goes right into self test mode. Pressing reset will take me to a BASIC prompt with "ERROR 12 at Line 0" and typing LIST gives me the repeating 0s forever.
I can p...
Stephen

06/08/2017

ND 11:22 PM Bug #44 (Closed): CORE 11 - Bug in PBI - EclaireXL will not boot with IDE2+ Is connected and when Turbo Freezer connected goes directly to Cart EMU not main screen
Just tested CORE 11 and there is Bug in PBI - EclaireXL will not boot with IDE2+ Is connected and when Turbo Freezer connected goes directly to Cart EMU not main screen ndary
FO 09:43 PM Bug #42: Core 8 - Mic level is low
I think on the final board we should add a passive low pass filter to the ADC inputs. Also are large resistor to pull it down when there is no input connected. Then I can boost the volume without boosting the noise. Of course we can test... foft
ND 10:18 AM Bug #42: Core 8 - Mic level is low
yes Panos, the noise is when SIO of the XC12 is connected ndary
FO 09:39 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
SO in v10 RST_N was just floating... foft
FO 09:38 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
Found an issue with RST_N. I had disconnected it in v10 (I forgot) because when I reset the freezer broke. Well I was just pulling it low for reset, then going high impedance for high. However there is no pull up on it! So I need to driv... foft
FO 09:01 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
I checked MPD...
If MPD and EXTSEL are used in conjunction that seems to work fine.
If just MPD is used to expose the ram under the OS that does not work. I doubt it uses that, but I should still fix it.
foft
FO 08:34 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
There is 5V on pin 47 and pin 48.
I see it drives EXSEL and MPD. I thought I'm handling that case properly, but I can check...
foft
ND 08:09 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
no it does not, i already tried it Panos
Nir
ndary
SA 07:31 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed

Nir,
If you power on eclaireXL and go to Basic, after keep down the start key and simultaneously press and leave the F10, after the IDE2+ menu appears?
sadosp
ND 07:21 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
i found this document.. can it be missing voltage on the PBI port?
the interface seems to work on the Eclair, when i press one of its buttons the LEDS respond.. but the menu will not boot
DOES ANYONE HERE HAVE THE BLACK BOX OR THE ...
ndary
ND 06:45 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
no, i dont have a logic analyzer or the schematics...
let me see what info i can gather
ndary
FO 06:34 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
Perhaps we can test it by poking/peeking regs from basic... foft
FO 05:36 PM Bug #43: Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
Does the rest of it work, just not the menu?
Do you have a logic analyzer? I can outputs some signals on the gpio for debugging.
Do you have any technical documentation, schematics etc?
foft
ND 04:39 PM Bug #43 (Closed): Core 10 - IDE2+ Menu does not show when powering the computer with START key pressed
the PBI device i am testing is the IDE2+ external interface that plugs to the PBI port
when i reset the computer with the START key pressed the IDE2+ menu should appear.
on a real atari it does but not on the ExlaireXL board
ndary
ND 04:37 PM Convert SOF file to JIC and Flashing EclaireXL V2 PCB core.pdf
ndary

06/07/2017

FO 10:46 PM Bug #41: Core 8 - the backgound music in Gene & LMS demos are not the same as on a real ATARI
Just trying gene.xex - any particular point that you hear the difference? I'll have to check my real Atari later - nice demo, at least it sounds good on Eclaire even if its wrong ;-) foft
FO 01:07 PM Bug #41: Core 8 - the backgound music in Gene & LMS demos are not the same as on a real ATARI
Interesting. Did the Atari you tested on have dual pokey?
v9 only changes pbi support, no pokey work.
foft
ND 11:31 AM Bug #41: Core 8 - the backgound music in Gene & LMS demos are not the same as on a real ATARI
confirmed this bug also in CORE9 ndary
FO 10:34 PM PBI support!
Core v10 is out for both v1 and v2/3
The turbo freezer works! Both of them!
foft
FO 10:27 PM Feature #2: PBI support
Please now test some other devices - and let me know how you get on:-) I can't guarantee its safe but the fact the freezer seems to work is a good sign... foft
FO 10:12 PM Feature #2: PBI support
Woohoo, freezer is working after reset - and ramdisk is working from freezer! foft
FO 10:08 PM Bug #39 (Closed): Internal turbo freezer crashes on v9
foft
FO 10:07 PM Bug #39: Internal turbo freezer crashes on v9
Fixed in v10 (being built)
Issue was down to interaction between pbi takeover when freezer has disabled atari. e.g. read from d720 would not reach freezer since its a pbi read.
foft
FO 05:33 PM Bug #16 (Closed): Audio bug report for Altirra
Many thanks Nir foft
ND 02:13 PM Bug #16: Audio bug report for Altirra
I Confirm that these Audio tests sound the same on a real Atari and on EclairXL board
Nir
ndary

06/06/2017

FO 09:19 PM Feature #2: PBI support
I added output of internal reads to the bus. I also fixed some cases around writes.
Now the external turbo freezer works well enough to save and load state to disk. However the internal freezer still crashes. The reset problem remains...
foft
SA 09:16 PM Bug #42: Core 8 - Mic level is low
Noise is there only when the SIO connector of XC12 is connected?
sadosp
FO 09:15 PM Bug #42: Core 8 - Mic level is low
Yeah we need a digital filter for that, part of the reason I don't want to make it louder yet:-). I found it pretty load though when I connected an input. foft
ND 09:00 PM Bug #42: Core 8 - Mic level is low
yes i connected correctly... and the volume still low..
i also notices that when the X12 is connected but nothing is played on the tape you can hear 'noise' from the MIC input
Nir
ndary
FO 08:26 PM Bug #42: Core 8 - Mic level is low
I don't have any tapes! I've not tuned the volume but it seemed pretty loud to me... foft
SA 08:07 PM Bug #42: Core 8 - Mic level is low
Have you connect these with right polarity? I mean ground to ground etc?
sadosp
ND 07:40 PM Bug #42 (New): Core 8 - Mic level is low
I connect the 2 pin header of MIC3 from the top board to the Bottom board (next to the speaker output)
and placed one of the DORSETTE Educational tapes to listed to AUDIO through the ATARI XC12 tape
i can hear the Audio / voice form ...
ndary
ND 07:16 PM Bug #41 (New): Core 8 - the backgound music in Gene & LMS demos are not the same as on a real ATARI
i Am attaching two demos that are set to run on an PAL Atari with 576k or 1meg ram
in both the background music is not like on a real ATARI, maybe a channel is missing, i am not sure but the music does not sound the same..
in Gene de...
ndary
FO 08:57 AM Feature #28 (Closed): XEX boot loader replacement
foft
XX 08:00 AM Feature #28: XEX boot loader replacement
foft wrote:
> Replace XEX boot loader with a better one
Das Omen works fine. You do not need to replace the loader.
xxl
FO 08:56 AM Bug #20 (Closed): Bugs in DAS OMEN Demo
foft
ND 06:46 AM Bug #38: Numen crashes on v9
(i managed to flash core 9 successfully, and Numen work when the memory is set to 320k compyshop.
numben crashed when i selected other expanded memory scheme that the demo do not support
Nir)
As discussed this is actually v8, afte...
ndary

06/05/2017

ND 10:49 PM Bug #39: Internal turbo freezer crashes on v9
(sorry i confirm that turbo freezer does crash on v9, not in the turbo freezer menu, but after you exist TB Freezer to load a software)
This report is from v8. The freezer is solid on mine in v8 so I suspect its related to Nir's v9 is...
ndary
ND 10:43 PM Bug #39: Internal turbo freezer crashes on v9
(I managed to flash CORE 9 (.SOF) file and the compute rebooted,
and pressing DEL take me to the Freezer software, it does not crash the core on my machine
Nir)
ndary
FO 08:12 PM Videos
Nir posted a couple of great videos, really great. I particularly enjoyed seeing the side2 streaming working.
https://youtu.be/xuL3VOGjW0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ordWyp8HZZ8
foft
ST 03:23 PM Bug #34: Problem booting with Core 9
ndary wrote:
> i did with same result, can anyone else confirm that core 9 works on on his v2 board?
> ...
Just wanted to say that so far core9 has been working fine for me.
Stephen

06/04/2017

FO 02:13 PM Feature #40: Add support for Interlace mode (in scaler)
Actually this works in 15KHz mode! Try it in 'RGB' mode on a CRT. Also I found it works in 'scandouble mode' too iirc.
I haven't got support in the video scaler though - will require a little detection logic of the weird sync pulses t...
foft
ND 01:54 PM Feature #40 (New): Add support for Interlace mode (in scaler)
attached is the Memopad 480i tool that simulate interlace mode on the ATARI 800XL,
ExclairXL does not emulate interlaced mode correctly.
Nir
ndary
FO 01:20 PM Bug #34: Problem booting with Core 9
Thanks for checking Nir. I guess it must be on the 'edge' and thus some boards work and not others. Its working well here, until I run Numen or try to use the internal freezer. They are real logic bugs though rather than a stability thing. foft
ND 12:45 PM Bug #34: Problem booting with Core 9
i did with same result, can anyone else confirm that core 9 works on on his v2 board?
Nir
ndary
FO 09:22 AM Bug #34: Problem booting with Core 9
One thing to try, can you see if it's the same with a few different power supplies? foft

06/03/2017

FO 09:58 PM Bug #39 (Closed): Internal turbo freezer crashes on v9
Pressing delete to activate internal turbo freezer crashes the core foft
FO 09:57 PM Bug #38 (Closed): Numen crashes on v9
Look into why foft
FO 09:57 PM Feature #37 (Closed): SD card insertion support
If an SD card is removed/inserted we should detect it and initialize fat. Should be no need to reboot. The detect line is wired on the PCB on v1 and v2. foft
FO 08:44 PM Bug #5 (Closed): SIDE2 does not work
Great, thanks Roy. Will close this for now, please reopen if it breaks again! foft
RO 08:41 PM Bug #5: SIDE2 does not work
foft wrote:
> In v8, uh oh! I don't think I changed anything before v8 that would fix this... I will have to get RoyE to double check with the v9 core on the v1 prototype.
I can confirm that Side 2 is now booting with SDX and the Sid...
RoyE
FO 12:31 PM Bug #5: SIDE2 does not work
In v8, uh oh! I don't think I changed anything before v8 that would fix this... I will have to get RoyE to double check with the v9 core on the v1 prototype. foft
ND 09:04 AM Bug #5: SIDE2 does not work
I Confirm that SIDE 2 cart work on core8, should we close this bug?
Nir
ndary
FO 12:37 PM Support #29 (Closed): LED for SIO activity
Great, closing. I'll note on the wiki that we should have a header for this on the final board. foft
FO 12:36 PM Bug #20: Bugs in DAS OMEN Demo
So is the one a basic on/off issue? foft
JO 12:33 PM Feature #28: XEX boot loader replacement
Or a patched OS, where the BASIC is turned off by default (you need to press OPTION in order to have BASIC). This is how AtariMax's 32in1 OS works. jozsef
FO 12:30 PM Feature #28: XEX boot loader replacement
I'm actually tempted to make the 'menu' less emulator like where possible. It is a hardware recreation and having a powerful firmware run by another cpu breaks the illusion somewhat. foft
FO 12:29 PM Feature #28: XEX boot loader replacement
Remember we're not an emulator and I'm hesitant to add extra portb logic etc or logic to force hold down keys for certain timeframes. foft
FO 12:28 PM Feature #28: XEX boot loader replacement
Do you mean in F11? I never use this one, but I think its ok to hold option if you need it isn't it? The USB keyboards can usually handle multiple key presses at once. foft
ND 09:48 AM Feature #28: XEX boot loader replacement
Mark,
i found that the existing XEX loader behave better then i originally reported,
the problem is that when you press ENTER to execute the file the computer immediate reboots without giving you the ability to hold the option key,...
ndary
JO 12:29 PM Bug #35: When connecting ST Mouse to any JOY PORT on the expantion port, navigation on the EclairXL Settings menu not possible (Core8)
In fact, stick(0) depends on the mouse's position. jozsef
JO 12:26 PM Bug #35: When connecting ST Mouse to any JOY PORT on the expantion port, navigation on the EclairXL Settings menu not possible (Core8)
stick(0) = 8, strig(0) = 1 jozsef
FO 12:25 PM Bug #35: When connecting ST Mouse to any JOY PORT on the expantion port, navigation on the EclairXL Settings menu not possible (Core8)
I agree I should change the firmware to still allow keyboard movement when the joystick is held on. foft
FO 12:17 PM Bug #35: When connecting ST Mouse to any JOY PORT on the expantion port, navigation on the EclairXL Settings menu not possible (Core8)
The joystick buttons and directions must be released to move. I guess the mouse presses some direction when idle. What do you see with stick and strig in basic? foft
JO 11:19 AM Bug #35: When connecting ST Mouse to any JOY PORT on the expantion port, navigation on the EclairXL Settings menu not possible (Core8)
I have confirm this behavior with Core7 (but strangely not always). More to this: I have SIO2SD attached to Eclaire, and when I connect the mouse to Port1, I see the display of SIO2SD, and plugging the mouse has some effect on the SIO bus. jozsef
ND 09:31 AM Bug #35 (New): When connecting ST Mouse to any JOY PORT on the expantion port, navigation on the EclairXL Settings menu not possible (Core8)
I have connected an ST Mouse o the EclairXL joyport to try and load some software that use the ST mouse but when the mouse is connected navigation with the arrow keys on the EclairXL settings is not possible
Nir
ndary
FO 12:27 PM Bug #33: Wizard of Wor
Thanks for checking more versions, always worthwhile. We need to work out what is going wrong, or if its just a game bug that manifests due to defined state e.g. the memory is zero initialised prior to starting the 6502. foft
JO 11:07 AM Bug #33: Wizard of Wor
Tried it today running more versions of WoW with the same results.
Addition to the behavior I described, when the game freezes, I press F12 and ESC, and the game continues to work. Till the next lockup. Then F12 and ESC makes it work ag...
jozsef
FO 12:23 PM Bug #36: Joystick is always emulated through the USB keyboard arrow keys
The keyboard is mapped to match the Atari _layout_. Sorry the arrow keys are in the same location as on the 800XL. i.e. like this: http://www.64kib.com/autobuild/keyboard.JPG. So you need to press the keys to the right of P and L. Also s... foft
ND 10:48 AM Bug #36: Joystick is always emulated through the USB keyboard arrow keys
Its is not about the keyboard mapping...
if you connect just a USB keyboard (not one with built in mouse) and you load a Joystick test tool or do a simple basic program to look at STICK 0 values, then move the arrow keys you can see j...
ndary
FO 10:31 AM Bug #36 (Rejected): Joystick is always emulated through the USB keyboard arrow keys
Not a bug, the keyboard matches the Atari layout.
See the core manual.
There is a feature request for custom mapping.
foft
ND 09:34 AM Bug #36 (Rejected): Joystick is always emulated through the USB keyboard arrow keys

I have connected only a USB keyboard (not mouse, or USB keyboard with built in mouse), and noticed when i try to run an ATARI software that use the ARROW KEYS to navigate (like the attached sysinfo), the navigation though the Arrow key...
ndary
FO 12:23 PM Feature #21 (Closed): Mirax Force game crash
Closing, not a bug with the loader. Just need to hold option to disable basic as usual! foft
FO 12:20 PM Feature #21: Mirax Force game crash
Its the same as the 800xl, portb disables basic and the os changes portb when holding option. Of course you can change the os if you want the reverse. foft
ND 10:54 AM Feature #21: Mirax Force game crash
notice that if you hold the OPTION KEY (F8) before selecting the file, it load correctly,
thus i believe we need to add a feature in the settings to DISABLE BASIC ON/OFF
Nir
ndary
FO 08:20 AM Bug #34: Problem booting with Core 9
Though thinking some more if you get 'no sync' then that is before all the new logic starts, so more likely the build-build instability on some boards only. foft
FO 07:31 AM Bug #34: Problem booting with Core 9
Its either board-board instability due to small timing differences or the new input pins I guess.
Can you check the voltage on these pins on PBI? They should all be 5V, I'm wondering if some are not pulled up. I guess I need to double...
foft
ND 12:49 AM Bug #34 (Closed): Problem booting with Core 9
upgraded successfully to core 9
but when powering on the board, the ExclairXL boot one out of six times..
when it does not boot i get a message on the screen "image out of range" on my VGA screen and no Signal on HDMI
Switched ba...
ndary
FO 07:33 AM Bug #31: HDMI Audio generate high pitch noise (Core 8)
HDMI audio to me seems very broken... Even just the 'bubbling' boot sound comes out wrong in my opinion. foft
FO 07:32 AM Bug #31: HDMI Audio generate high pitch noise (Core 8)
So you are saying it happens with v7? OK that rules out the adc then. foft
ND 12:29 AM Bug #31: HDMI Audio generate high pitch noise (Core 8)
it happens with CORE 8 & 9 as well ndary

06/02/2017

FO 10:56 PM Bug #4 (Closed): Galaxian flickers on scrolling - when using real cartridge
Fixed in v9 foft
FO 10:50 PM Feature #2: PBI support
First cut released as v9. Sure there are some bugs, try at your own risk! foft
FO 10:25 PM Feature #2: PBI support
I took a look at the turbo freezer on signaltap, I can't see it even trying to pull refresh after a reset. So I guess I need to check I'm still feeding it valid inputs... Oddly oldos mode DOES work! So ... weird... foft
FO 10:10 PM Feature #2: PBI support
Synced gtia delays to end of original 6502 cycle time and now acid is passing again. foft
FO 03:45 PM Feature #2: PBI support
Well that horrible dma clock patch led to a complete acid pass except for a gtia failure. I see in gtia I have colour clock delays on register writes will lead to exactly this kind of problem. So I need to adjust all of those delays to b... foft
FO 03:38 PM Feature #2: PBI support
I've been squashing test failures related to moving the cpu clock later in the '6502 cycle' due to PBI. None of these should have changed anything, they are all silly bugs. Mostly fixed, though the last one highlighted some issues with m... foft
FO 10:49 PM Bug #25: F10 Hard Reset Ignore inserted cartridge (Core v7)
Bumped to v10... foft
FO 10:10 PM Bug #25: F10 Hard Reset Ignore inserted cartridge (Core v7)
Arg, of course I turned off pbi/cart in turbo mode and on zpu accesses... Better change that too I guess otherwise I can't do this from the firmware! foft
FO 09:42 PM Bug #25: F10 Hard Reset Ignore inserted cartridge (Core v7)
Added to svn code foft
FO 10:49 PM Bug #27 (Closed): USB D-PAD Joystick support on CORE7
Decided to call pbiv28 v9... Closing as complete. foft
FO 10:23 PM Bug #27: USB D-PAD Joystick support on CORE7
Confirmed good as of pbiv28.sof. This release is almost ready for v9.sof, but some issues to fix first... foft
FO 09:29 PM Bug #27: USB D-PAD Joystick support on CORE7
Switched this to another output so it should no longer crash in next release foft
FO 10:28 AM Bug #27: USB D-PAD Joystick support on CORE7
I checked the code and I'm using zpu_out5 for both joystick and video mode! foft
AD 10:31 PM Feature #11: Non-uk keyboard support (custom keyboard mapping)
The mapping from ps2 to atari key code is here:
http://www.64kib.com/atarixlfpga_svn/trunk/atari_800xl/common/a8core/ps2_to_atari800.vhdl
(see http://www.computer-engineering.org/ps2keyboard/scancodes2.html)
I started with ps2 you s...
admin
FO 08:07 PM Bug #33: Wizard of Wor
If this is confirmed it will need some digging to get to the root cause. Anyone up for the challenge? foft
JO 04:29 PM Bug #33 (Closed): Wizard of Wor
Loading it from an external sio2SD drive with core 7:
At least on the 4th of 5th level, the monsters start appearing in the top left corner and their behaviour stops to be random.
If I kill them all, the game freezes before the next l...
jozsef
JO 05:06 PM Support #29: LED for SIO activity
Connected to SIO-IN and 5V (SIO-IN is reversed). Works fine. Thank you. jozsef
FO 09:54 AM Feature #32: option to connect the original ATARI XL keyboard to ExclairXL
I mean I have the pokey signals and can break them out. To use an XL one we'd need a board with a suitable socket and some 4051s. I think its pretty easy to make and I can support via the pokey signals on GPIO. I'd rather not use so many... foft
ND 08:39 AM Feature #32: option to connect the original ATARI XL keyboard to ExclairXL
yes i did.. but i was hoping for a real XL keyboard.. not the mushy XE ones :) ndary
FO 07:11 AM Feature #32: option to connect the original ATARI XL keyboard to ExclairXL
You've also seen I had an XEGS keyboard connector on the old board?
http://www.64kib.com/eclairexl.html
We have some GPIO pins, once I have some stable cores I'll start assigning them. For now I'm using them for debugging signals.
...
foft
FO 07:12 AM Bug #31: HDMI Audio generate high pitch noise (Core 8)
Did it on core 7 btw? If so I guess its aliasing from the adc noise? I need a low pass filter on input to the HDMI component I think. foft
FO 07:08 AM Bug #31: HDMI Audio generate high pitch noise (Core 8)
The HDMI audio has some issues, I have another bug to find this. foft
ST 01:33 AM Bug #18: Power on Switch
ndary wrote:
> in a REAL ATARI XL/XE computer you switch the computer on by flipping the POWER SWITCH UP, but in the EclaireXL board you turn the POWER by flipping the Switch DOWN.
> ...
I noticed this also.
Stephen

06/01/2017

ND 11:16 PM Feature #32 (New): option to connect the original ATARI XL keyboard to ExclairXL

IT would be great to be able and connect the Original ATARI XL keyboard to EclairXL board,
such option has been done before (here is some info)
http://atariage.com/forums/topic/181298-atari-keyboard-to-usb/
http://blog.pixelpr...
ndary
ND 11:08 PM Bug #31 (Closed): HDMI Audio generate high pitch noise (Core 8)
The Audio of the HDMI port generate high pitch sound..
you can hear it when TAPE LOADS, or though disk driver SIO sound or when steaming video through SIDE2 CART.
This pitch noise is not heard on the speakers connected to Audio out p...
ndary
ND 11:06 PM Bug #30 (Feedback): TAPE does not play AUDIO on the Right Chanel (Eucational tapes cannot be heard)
will make a cable and continued testing ndary
ND 10:50 PM Bug #30: TAPE does not play AUDIO on the Right Chanel (Eucational tapes cannot be heard)
or i will build a cable are test, thanks
Nir
ndary
SA 10:36 PM Bug #30: TAPE does not play AUDIO on the Right Chanel (Eucational tapes cannot be heard)
@Nir
As for the XC12 tape corder, just now I see that it haven't a PSU, so must take their power supply entirely from eclaireXL board.
This mean that you need to supply the eclaireXL with a power adapter of 1 or 2A. I don't know how ex...
sadosp
FO 10:23 PM Bug #30: TAPE does not play AUDIO on the Right Chanel (Eucational tapes cannot be heard)
This is only in v8 too foft
SA 10:16 PM Bug #30: TAPE does not play AUDIO on the Right Chanel (Eucational tapes cannot be heard)
Have you seen the two pole pin header on right side of the sub board? Is for this exact reason.
You must make first a small coaxial cable ended at both sides in a DuPont connector, as to interconnect it with the corresponding one in th...
sadosp
ND 10:03 PM Bug #30 (Closed): TAPE does not play AUDIO on the Right Chanel (Eucational tapes cannot be heard)
tried to put an AUDIO Tape
POKE 54018,52 [RETURN] should stream AUDIO that is recorded on the right channel and it should play through the ATARI speakers
on the ExlairXL this audio cannot be heard.
Nir
ndary
FO 08:20 PM Support #29: LED for SIO activity
Interface 2 pin 36 (SIO out) and interface 2 pin 31 (GND). With a suitable resistor of course since this is 5V. foft
JO 05:04 PM Support #29 (Closed): LED for SIO activity
Where can I connect a LED to indicate SIO activity (soldering is not a problem, if required)?
POWER and RESET are connected, but there is a HDD LED, which would be good to connect to somewhere :)
jozsef
SA 07:21 PM Bug #17: NTSC crashing on some builds
ndary wrote:
> changed the Core to v8 and when chancing the video mode to NTSC the screen crashes
> ...
I remember that this was ok in mine board. Are you use the prototype 2 area to get the firmware?
sadosp
ND 07:13 PM Bug #17: NTSC crashing on some builds
changed the Core to v8 and when chancing the video mode to NTSC the screen crashes
Nir
ndary
FO 06:40 AM Bug #25: F10 Hard Reset Ignore inserted cartridge (Core v7)
OK, I'll add that in v9 foft

05/31/2017

ND 10:02 PM Bug #25: F10 Hard Reset Ignore inserted cartridge (Core v7)
yes i think so..
there are different banking cart schemes, some use data to change bank and other use address to change their banks
i think that writing 00 to D500 and set the Address line D5XX to D500 will cover them all
Nir
ndary
FO 09:28 PM Bug #25: F10 Hard Reset Ignore inserted cartridge (Core v7)
I can't tell the init state, since its an external cartridge. The logic could set up the registers written to by D500 to any value. Its possible _most_ default to 00, but it can't be known.
If you think writing 0 to D500 will increase...
foft
ND 09:08 PM Bug #25: F10 Hard Reset Ignore inserted cartridge (Core v7)
it should also clear the D5XX to its imitate state so the bank switching cart will be set to its default state ndary
FO 08:43 PM Bug #25: F10 Hard Reset Ignore inserted cartridge (Core v7)
I mean the 'hard reset' just clears memory then drops the reset line. foft
FO 08:42 PM Bug #25: F10 Hard Reset Ignore inserted cartridge (Core v7)
Bug hunt does bank switching
Ah, I see what you mean. The hard reset does not power off the system. So if the cart has state then it won't reset that. Not sure what I can do about that one since I can't power off the cartridge.
foft
ND 08:37 PM Bug #25: F10 Hard Reset Ignore inserted cartridge (Core v7)
do you have an XEG cart with more than 16?
try one of the carts that do Bank Switching
Nir
ndary
FO 08:31 PM Bug #25: F10 Hard Reset Ignore inserted cartridge (Core v7)
Not sure what you mean here. If I put in a cartridge and press F10 then the computer reboots and the cartridge runs. I checked with pole position, frogger and bug hunt. foft
FO 06:55 PM Bug #25: F10 Hard Reset Ignore inserted cartridge (Core v7)
Will have a look after PBI support - or as part of it. I'm replacing the cartridge reading logic as part of that. foft
ND 04:58 PM Bug #25 (New): F10 Hard Reset Ignore inserted cartridge (Core v7)
When there is a cartridge inserted to the cartridge slot and you power on the ExlairXL board the cartridge boots
but if you press F10 (hard reset) it acts like F9 (Soft reset), cannot access the cartridge menu
(may have to do that R...
ndary
FO 08:32 PM Feature #2: PBI support
Fixed some clear cycle delay bugs in antic and simulated. This fixed NMIEN and WSYNC tests in acid, however there are still 4 failing. Work out why...
I could do with converting the acid test suite into testbenches really!
foft
FO 08:23 PM Bug #27: USB D-PAD Joystick support on CORE7
Confirmed. I saw video settings had changed after disconnection too. foft
ND 07:50 PM Bug #27: USB D-PAD Joystick support on CORE7
yes VGA is still connected, it also happen with HDMI screen ndary
FO 06:50 PM Bug #27: USB D-PAD Joystick support on CORE7
Is the VGA cable still connected?! Will dig out mine but I've not knowingly changed this. I wonder if I accidentally cross connected the video settings and the usb joystick or something... foft
ND 06:41 PM Bug #27 (Closed): USB D-PAD Joystick support on CORE7
When connecting a D-PAD Joystick to one of the USB ports the screen goes black!
the computer still works and even boots but with no screen.
i tried to use one of my USB joystick (Retronic ATARI 2600 Style, PS/2 USB Style, Standard US...
ndary
SA 08:17 PM Feature #24: A board with Atari SOUL!!!! (ROM in block ram support)
foft wrote:
> I'll start by a default one in block ram, (optionally overriden by sd card). Then later we can add support for the flash reading.
Thanks!
sadosp
FO 08:10 PM Feature #24: A board with Atari SOUL!!!! (ROM in block ram support)
I'll start by a default one in block ram, (optionally overriden by sd card). Then later we can add support for the flash reading. foft
SA 07:57 PM Feature #24: A board with Atari SOUL!!!! (ROM in block ram support)
sadosp wrote:
> What I would like to see from Mark sometime in the future, is to integrate the Atari OS in the flash ram.
> ...
?????????
sadosp
SA 02:56 PM Feature #24 (Closed): A board with Atari SOUL!!!! (ROM in block ram support)
What I would like to see from Mark sometime in the future, is to integrate the Atari OS in the flash ram.
Dream for the day who I will push the power switch, and I will see the "Basic" blue screen, without the need of SD card.
A board ...
sadosp
FO 07:01 PM Feature #28: XEX boot loader replacement
Improve XEX boot loader with a better version, since the current one causes a lot of software to fail. foft
FO 07:01 PM Feature #28 (Closed): XEX boot loader replacement
Replace XEX boot loader with a better one foft
FO 06:57 PM Feature #13 (New): 32x speed cpu without wait states
foft
JO 06:55 PM Feature #26: PS/2 keyboard
As you mention this, I tried it again:
- if the keyboard has already been connected when I turn eclaire on, it doesn't work
- when I let eclaire to boot and connect the keyboard after the "ready" prompt appeared, the keyboard works.
...
jozsef
FO 06:52 PM Feature #26: PS/2 keyboard
Yeah I expect a non-compliant adaptor. Though I doubt the USB HID support is rock solid investigating these individually takes too long. Does it have a built in hub? The USB hub support seems a bit iffy to me. foft
ND 06:36 PM Feature #26: PS/2 keyboard
I Confirm that ExlaireXL does support PS2/USB adapter to connect PS/2 Keyboard & Mouse with CORE7
i just tested it here and it works!!
what adapter you use? that are some cheap adapter that does not fully comply with the PI Protocol ...
ndary
JO 05:08 PM Feature #26 (Closed): PS/2 keyboard
I've a PS2/2 keyboard with a PS2->USB adapter, which works fine on my PC and other HW emulators which has USB port, but not on Eclaire (FW7)
The LEDS on the keyboard are blinking once and then stay black (all).
jozsef
FO 06:54 PM Bug #4: Galaxian flickers on scrolling - when using real cartridge
I see lots of acid fails after adding the PBI support. This effectively adds the same delay as when using the cartridge so I expect its the same issue. foft
FO 06:50 PM Support #23 (Closed): No image
foft
JO 01:00 PM Support #23: No image
Thanks! It works now!
Start reading the http://www.64kib.com/redmine/attachments/download/7/Atari%20800%20FPGA%20Manual.pdf :)
Thanks for your support!
jozsef
ND 12:49 PM Support #23: No image
copy this to the ROOT of your SD CARD
http://www.64kib.com/redmine/attachments/download/44/SDCARD.zip
Nir
ndary
JO 12:45 PM Support #23: No image
My bad: the card was NTSC formatted.
The old firmware reads "settings" too. Now I see the monitor recognizes the resolution/frequency, but I see a black screen only.
Reporting back, when my altera cable arrives from china.
jozsef
JO 12:26 PM Support #23: No image
The current firmware doesn't use this file. Need to order a cable to update the firmware. jozsef
FO 12:11 PM Support #23: No image
Panos posted an sd card image in the forum. I expect that is set up for 50Hz vga. foft
FO 12:05 PM Support #23: No image
http://www.64kib.com/autobuild/private/settings_examples/
See the readme in here.
Please flash v8 too
foft
JO 11:51 AM Support #23 (Closed): No image
- the vga connector produces 15KHz, of which the monitor doesn't support
- through the HDMI connector I see "No SIGNAL" on the monitor
All the three power leds are shining.
jozsef
FO 06:48 PM Bug #22: Action and Bounty Bob Cartridges cannot be loaded
That would explain it, I only see the one 8k oss cartridge supported in the cart logic. It might be quite easy to add, will have a look. foft
SA 12:01 AM Bug #22: Action and Bounty Bob Cartridges cannot be loaded
Some more info's for the OSS cartridges on below link.
Seem that OSS M091 is the latest type cartridge from OSS which using one 16Kb eprom versus the two 8 Kb on previous.
[[https://sourceforge.net/p/atari800/mailman/message/277075...
sadosp
FO 06:48 PM Bug #20: Bugs in DAS OMEN Demo
I'm wondering about splitting the firmware up and running on more smaller cpus (such as 6503). e.g. one instance for drive emulation, one for the screen stuff, one for USB access. Using a single CPU there are latency concerns which got q... foft
FO 06:45 PM Bug #20: Bugs in DAS OMEN Demo
Using this one:
uint8_t boot_xex_loader[179] = {
0x72,0x02,0x5f,0x07,0xf8,0x07,0xa9,0x00,0x8d,0x04,0x03,0x8d,0x44,0x02,0xa9,0x07,
0x8d,0x05,0x03,0xa9,0x70,0x8d,0x0a,0x03,0xa9,0x01,0x8d,0x0b,0x03,0x85,0x09,0x60,
0x7d,0x8a,0x48,0x20...
foft
XX 10:15 AM Bug #20: Bugs in DAS OMEN Demo
foft wrote:
> We can try it. Do you know c? There is atari_drive_emulator.c in the firmware which has a copy of the xex loader. Its an sdrive port and I didn't ever look into the xex side much.
Are you using this loader?
#ifdef ...
xxl
FO 09:59 AM Bug #20: Bugs in DAS OMEN Demo
We could add another 6502 for the firmware to replace the zpu. I'd like that but don't have time to spend on that.
Quite a job though to rewrite the firmware.
It contains sd card access, fat filesystem, file browsing and a usb stack.
foft
ND 08:57 AM Bug #20: Bugs in DAS OMEN Demo
6502 assembly only here :)
XXL posted that he can do a loader and PICODOS source is on Github
https://github.com/Masq666/PicoDOS/blob/master/picodos.asm
Nir
ndary
FO 08:05 AM Bug #20: Bugs in DAS OMEN Demo
We can try it. Do you know c? There is atari_drive_emulator.c in the firmware which has a copy of the xex loader. Its an sdrive port and I didn't ever look into the xex side much. foft
ND 12:48 PM SDCARD.zip
ndary
ND 08:55 AM Feature #21: Mirax Force game crash
PicoDos source is on Github
https://github.com/Masq666/PicoDOS/blob/master/picodos.asm
Nir
ndary
XX 08:44 AM Feature #21: Mirax Force game crash
foft wrote:
> ok, another loader issue.
> ...
I can write proper loader.
xxl
FO 08:07 AM Feature #21: Mirax Force game crash
ok, another loader issue.
Lets add a new task for changing the xex loader to picodos or another.
foft

05/30/2017

SA 11:50 PM Bug #22: Action and Bounty Bob Cartridges cannot be loaded
And if someone need to play BBSB on eclaireXL, below is attached a working ATR file.
sadosp
ND 11:39 PM Bug #22: Action and Bounty Bob Cartridges cannot be loaded
the problem with this specific Action bank switching cart.. just tested another model of Action cart that works well
this one use different address to switch banks
ndary
FO 09:55 PM Bug #22: Action and Bounty Bob Cartridges cannot be loaded
There is a file cart_logic.vhd which has the cartridge emulation logic from the turbo freezer.
Of course we can add more types. I wonder why action doesn't work, that one seems standard. Does anyone have a _real_ action cart to try? S...
foft
SA 07:59 PM Bug #22: Action and Bounty Bob Cartridges cannot be loaded
foft wrote:
> Bounty Bob is expected, its a one-off cartridge type.
Mark I have the logic as how to load the bounty bob, from a guy who have decode it in the past. Bernd Herale. If this will help, let me know to upload it.
sadosp
SA 07:58 PM Bug #22: Action and Bounty Bob Cartridges cannot be loaded
foft wrote:
> Bounty Bob is expected, its a one-off cartridge type.
> ...
Mark I have the logic as how to load the bounty bob, from a guy who have decode it in the past. Bernd Herale. If this will help, let me know to upload it.
sadosp
ND 07:31 PM Bug #22: Action and Bounty Bob Cartridges cannot be loaded
the attached ACTION cart is
ID #3 | 800/XL/XE | 16 | OSS two chip 16 KB cartridge (034M)
ndary
FO 06:49 PM Bug #22: Action and Bounty Bob Cartridges cannot be loaded
Bounty Bob is expected, its a one-off cartridge type.
What cartridge type is action?
foft
ND 03:50 PM Bug #22 (New): Action and Bounty Bob Cartridges cannot be loaded
The following attached cartridges image cannot be loaded on ExclairXL
ndary
ND 11:36 PM Bug #20: Bugs in DAS OMEN Demo
i just confirmed that the problem is with the XEX loader of EclairXL, can you use the PICODOS loader from HIASOFT? from my experience it works well with most files.
ndary
FO 06:51 PM Bug #20: Bugs in DAS OMEN Demo
Uh-oh, good spot. Did you check it with aspeqt too? I find that the .xex support (sdrive port) can be a bit iffy at times. I'm not sure if there are better xex loaders we can switch to?
Can someone pick this up and look into the root ...
foft
ND 03:39 PM Bug #20 (Closed): Bugs in DAS OMEN Demo
tested the DAS OMEN Demo
1. the speech (DAS OMEN) at the 3rd part does not play
2. Music stops after a while and the DEMO Crash
ndary
ND 11:34 PM Feature #21: Mirax Force game crash
ndary wrote:
> tested it ASPEQT and confirm that its a problem of the loader..
> ...
ndary
ND 11:34 PM Feature #21: Mirax Force game crash
tested it ASPEQT and confirm that its a problem of the loader..
i used PICODOS from HIASOFT and most games/demos that does not load well with the EclairXL loader works now!!!
so its not a problem with the core but with the loader
...
ndary
FO 06:32 PM Feature #21: Mirax Force game crash
Can you test it with aspeqt too? foft
ND 03:40 PM Feature #21 (Closed): Mirax Force game crash
tested the MIRAX Force game
the Speech at the beginning of the game works. but the game will not start
can this be a bug in the XEX File loader?
Nir
ndary
FO 10:06 PM Feature #2: PBI support
Some info from Hias on the turbo freezer:
"Reset on the freezer runs through a synchronizer, clocked by phi2. IIRC 2 clock cycles after rst_n=0 freezer is in reset state. It then snoops the bus, when the freezer button is pressed it loo...
foft
FO 10:04 PM Feature #2: PBI support
Some progress in antic timings which are broken by this. I found I am using a delay shift register to wait 32 cycles (48 in one case!) on a write to a bunch of registers. This isn't really ideal since depending on memory timings the next... foft
FO 07:02 PM Feature #1 (Closed): Svideo sync line support
Being handled in issue 14 foft
FO 07:00 PM Feature #8 (Closed): Implement 4 channel ADC
Closing since the core support is in place. Noise reduction and sampler connection may be raised as future feature requests. foft
FO 06:58 PM Feature #12 (New): Set up redmine backups!
foft
FO 06:46 PM Bug #19 (Closed): PAL VGA Synch issues (screen is not centered
Closing since we already have a task to implement the pll and edid/ddc support foft
FO 06:45 PM Bug #19: PAL VGA Synch issues (screen is not centered
50Hz isn't standard on VGA monitors at all. So its not going to work well unless you find one that supports modes like 576p50.
We will be doing work to fix this, there is a programmable pll on board and edid/ddc hardware to implement...
foft
ND 02:53 PM Bug #19 (Closed): PAL VGA Synch issues (screen is not centered

I am using a LCD TV SCREEN with VGA input, when the ExclairXL boot into Basic (ready prompt) the screen is not centered
but in the Settings mode (Pressing F12) and 'file browse' (Pressing F11) screen the screen is centered, without c...
ndary
ND 02:28 PM Bug #18 (Closed): Power on Switch
in a REAL ATARI XL/XE computer you switch the computer on by flipping the POWER SWITCH UP, but in the EclaireXL board you turn the POWER by flipping the Switch DOWN.
as a 30 years ATARI USER i thought this should be put into attention...
ndary

05/28/2017

SA 10:15 PM Feature #2: PBI support
foft wrote:
> Interesting the acid test now fails with this core, which explains the blips I got when running real cartridges before. So probably some antic timings are wrong when the active cycle is in the 2nd colour clock of the cycle...
sadosp
FO 10:05 PM Feature #2: PBI support
Interesting the acid test now fails with this core, which explains the blips I got when running real cartridges before. So probably some antic timings are wrong when the active cycle is in the 2nd colour clock of the cycle. foft
FO 09:59 PM Feature #2: PBI support
PBI lives!!
Still some debugging to do but so far...
Cartridges are working again, which is a good sign (these are now via the PBI component)
Turbo freezer works - sort of! Sometimes is seems inactive and the memory expansion doesn'...
foft

05/27/2017

FO 10:49 PM Feature #2: PBI support
Still no luck with signaltap, so got the real logic analyzer on the GPIOs to debug. Squashed one sync bug but still no dice. But now confident I can get the values I need out where I can see them at least. foft
FO 10:28 AM Feature #2: PBI support
I started to bisect to find the problem - and found the core stops working when connecting RAS and CAS! Which are largely just for show, I doubt anyone will really use a 1064... Anyway I checked the pin assignments and found a bunch of d... foft
FO 11:20 AM Arriving!
The first board has arrived, the rest should be there shortly.
Please post in the forum when you board arrives and tell us what you think.
Its worth putting on the v8.sof firmware on arrival. I hope to have one with pbi support soo...
foft
FO 10:46 AM Bug #17: NTSC crashing on some builds
Interesting when I build on AWS I get completely screwed up builds with the registered sdram input. Seemingly every time. foft

05/26/2017

FO 08:53 PM Feature #2: PBI support
The core blows up with signaltap2 enabled! Looks great on sim, but I can't see what is going wrong on the actual hardware:-(
foft

05/25/2017

SA 11:29 PM Feature #2: PBI support
foft wrote:
> Made several more fixes and the core no longer crashes with PBI enabled. However it all crashes when I plug in a cartridge! These worked without PBI support, but I replaced the cartridge logic too when I implemented this. ...
sadosp
FO 11:10 PM Feature #2: PBI support
Made several more fixes and the core no longer crashes with PBI enabled. However it all crashes when I plug in a cartridge! These worked without PBI support, but I replaced the cartridge logic too when I implemented this. Interestingly s... foft

05/24/2017

SA 11:49 PM Document: Notes and a guide for spacers - v3 prototype
sadosp
SA 11:48 PM Spacers Place.pdf
sadosp
SA 11:48 PM Note for v3.0 board.odt
sadosp
SA 11:42 PM Document: First owner notice - v1 Prototype
sadosp
SA 11:42 PM First owner notice.odt
sadosp
FO 10:09 PM Feature #2: PBI support
Looking good on simulation now but does not run on the board. I think the issue is when pbi takes over the bus when a transaction is already in process.
This is all so complicated because I'm running the clock at 32x the original one...
foft

05/23/2017

FO 09:43 PM Feature #2: PBI support
Integrated into the description and synthesising:-)
For now I took the strategy of delaying the cycle until we know if PBI wants to take over. Its enabled only in 1x speed for now.
foft

05/22/2017

FO 09:55 PM Feature #2: PBI support
PBI looking good on simulation (bit itself). Based timings on the Freddie data sheet.
Made a start on wiring it up to the core. Need to remind myself how the enable strategy works and what they are all used for.
Initial idea is to ju...
foft

05/21/2017

FO 02:37 PM Feature #2: PBI support
Started on a PBI component that will correctly communicate with the bus. Then this can be checked/simulated - and as a later stage I can do the core connection. foft

05/20/2017

FO 10:39 PM Bug #17: NTSC crashing on some builds
I've still had bad builds since registering the sdram input directly.
I tried to specify an externally switchable input clock for timequest as a proxy for ntsc/pal clocks. However it doesn't make it past derive_pll_clocks, so I guess ...
foft
FO 10:36 PM Feature #8: Implement 4 channel ADC
So I guess we should have some more passive components here. On the other hand I'm kind of attached to SIO noise down to cable interference. If we fix this too well we may lose that! foft
FO 10:35 PM Feature #8: Implement 4 channel ADC
Pretty sure this is down to floating inputs. Since there is no driver and low capacitance the input picks up the previous sample stored in the ADC. I checked this out by trying two approaches:
i) Sample a single channel and checking for...
foft

05/18/2017

FO 11:01 PM Feature #8: Implement 4 channel ADC
Sigh, it definitely works but if I read say channel 1 - I still receive input from the other channels foft
FO 09:00 PM Feature #8: Implement 4 channel ADC
Debugged and now working.
PBI and SIO audio will be mixed. For now I'm not feeding MIC_L and MIC_R anywhere - these will be connected to some sampler register. I guess D500 and D501 if the 'replay cartrige mode' is enabled.
foft
FO 06:56 AM Feature #8: Implement 4 channel ADC
Now I have the board its clear this needs debugging. foft
FO 06:58 AM Feature #1: Svideo sync line support
Received the board and gave this a go. svideo and composite look nice and bright now. However saturation is too low, need to work out how to boost this without too much impact to brightness.
Also need to work out why its just black an...
foft
 

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